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then clinton came along. he did win. i would think there was this notion that bill clinton was inherently illegitimate and nothing too extreme to dislodge him from the white house because he was de-facto illegitimate. and i think with barack obama, this notion that this could not have happened. this was a nightmare inflicted on us by a.c.o.r.n. >> you are so funny. you have the cartoon sense, the way they look at this. a bunch of people got together. the idea that somehow it doesn't belong to the democrats and bill clinton went to russia when he was a kid, he's some sort of mole, some sort of mata hari. and even kennedy -- why do they think illegitimately, why does the white house belong in the hands of the toris, if you will, the conservatives? >> because i think it's symbolic. they feel the symbol of the country has got to represent the symbol of the values, pushing what they see is the american value system, which is capitalism unrestrained, this idea of freedom that they have actually glommed on to things, like tax c
then clinton came along. he did win. i would think there was this notion that bill clinton was inherently illegitimate and nothing too extreme to dislodge him from the white house because he was de-facto illegitimate. and i think with barack obama, this notion that this could not have happened. this was a nightmare inflicted on us by a.c.o.r.n. >> you are so funny. you have the cartoon sense, the way they look at this. a bunch of people got together. the idea that somehow it doesn't...
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the defense of marriage act signed by president clinton is also facing numerous challengeses. the law states the federal government will only recognize traditional marriages, meaning no federal benefits even where same-sex marriage is legal. >> same-sex couples are denied hundreds of different rights and benefits that are provided to married different sex couples under federal law. >> reporter: on the docket as well, whether to curtail parts of the historic voting rights act of 1965. it mandates federal oversight for states with a history of voting discrimination, when changing any rules for elections. challengers say the law is outdated and unnecessary. a big lineup of cases that could change the landscape of civil rights in america. fr frances coe, nbc news. >>> and now here's a look at some other stories making news early today in america. in maine, a group of strangers spring into action when an elderly woman drove her car into the portland harbor. the band of good samaritans pulled the 84-year-old out of her car moments before it sank. the woman is in stable condition. so
the defense of marriage act signed by president clinton is also facing numerous challengeses. the law states the federal government will only recognize traditional marriages, meaning no federal benefits even where same-sex marriage is legal. >> same-sex couples are denied hundreds of different rights and benefits that are provided to married different sex couples under federal law. >> reporter: on the docket as well, whether to curtail parts of the historic voting rights act of...
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plus, a day in the life of secretary of state hillary clinton. >> i don't mind if they can just figure out how to use their cameras. that is my big problem. >> we'll play more of what the secretary of state was explaining. it's one of the things we thought you should know. so, we all set? i've got two tickets to paradise! pack your bags, we'll leave tonight. uhh, it's next month, actually... eddie continues singing: to tickets to... paradiiiiiise! no four. remember? whoooa whooaa whooo! you know ronny, folks who save hundreds of dollars by switching to geico sure are happy. and how happy are they jimmy? happier than eddie money running a travel agency. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aar
plus, a day in the life of secretary of state hillary clinton. >> i don't mind if they can just figure out how to use their cameras. that is my big problem. >> we'll play more of what the secretary of state was explaining. it's one of the things we thought you should know. so, we all set? i've got two tickets to paradise! pack your bags, we'll leave tonight. uhh, it's next month, actually... eddie continues singing: to tickets to... paradiiiiiise! no four. remember? whoooa whooaa...
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he needs to completely right this ship because ever since the 47%, and the president clinton speech at the debate, the momentum has gone completely against him. >> i'm going to bring in chris. one more time, michael, what can he do that would change? that's what i'm looking for in an answer here. what do you believe specifically he can say at this point? >> if i were advising mitt romney my advice would be to be the man that was a governor, as a moderate of massachusetts and not the incarnation who has sought the presidency trying to appease all the ideologues on the right end of the spectrum. >> that is the opposite of a man you as a conservative does not want to see. you do not want to see massachusetts mitt show up at that debate. that will not bring conservative enthusiasm up a blip. >> had he taken -- he hasn't been a conservative the last five years running. why he didn't win the nomination four years ago, took him so long to win the nomination this time around. i don't think this is about ideology or anything as much as it pains me to say that, this is a question of capability.
he needs to completely right this ship because ever since the 47%, and the president clinton speech at the debate, the momentum has gone completely against him. >> i'm going to bring in chris. one more time, michael, what can he do that would change? that's what i'm looking for in an answer here. what do you believe specifically he can say at this point? >> if i were advising mitt romney my advice would be to be the man that was a governor, as a moderate of massachusetts and not the...
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secretary clinton met one-on-one with mr. netanyahu for more than an hour on thursday. you have that. you have the phone call that the president shared with him yesterday. has the president and benjamin netanyahu patched over any perceived differences? >> it's a very interesting moment right now, where there's a perception that is being pushed in the political environment of differences between netanyahu and the obama administration. but when it comes to the facts, this administration has a very close relationship with the netanyahu government, the defense minister who barack has multiple times spoken about, how the support for israel's security is at the highest level it's ever been. so there's superficial arguments about it, but really no, no real split at all. >> we know that benjamin netanyahu has known mitt romney for a long time. the fact is he spoke with him yesterday as well regarding iran. and here's what mr. romney said regarding that call. >> i do not believe that in the final analysis we will have to use military action. i certainly hope we don't have to. i
secretary clinton met one-on-one with mr. netanyahu for more than an hour on thursday. you have that. you have the phone call that the president shared with him yesterday. has the president and benjamin netanyahu patched over any perceived differences? >> it's a very interesting moment right now, where there's a perception that is being pushed in the political environment of differences between netanyahu and the obama administration. but when it comes to the facts, this administration has...
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bill clinton a master of the form. what is the biggest lesson the president has learned from bill clinton's performance at the dnc? >> i think ultimately what president clinton did was crystallize the economic argument and economic choice before us, because we built the economy from the middle class out during the 1990s. you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would like to do today, passed a tax cut for the wealthiest that led to the lowest pace of job creation since world war ii, stripped back oversight from wall street a financial house of cards that collapsed in 2008. so president clinton made clear this isn't some sort of economic theory, we've tried these policies before and you saw where we ended up. let's pursue those that work. >> ben in terms of the strategy, we were talking about the fact that mitt romney has been trotting out i won't call it stakes, maybe dried pieces of chicken in ter
bill clinton a master of the form. what is the biggest lesson the president has learned from bill clinton's performance at the dnc? >> i think ultimately what president clinton did was crystallize the economic argument and economic choice before us, because we built the economy from the middle class out during the 1990s. you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would...
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then clinton and bob dole. >> howard dean said that president obama should not make the same mistake al gore did in 2000 against george w. bush. >> that's not the way america's meant to be. >> and there, there's nixon with the flop sweat. george h.w. bush looking at his watch. appearances count, don't they? >> they really do. and a professional knows that. george h.w. bush in that debate, that third one in richmond in 1992, he was looking at his watch because he was trying to make the point that one of the other candidates had run over time. it didn't really compute this was sending the message that he was impatient, just the kind of message he didn't want to send. >> humor can be an effective tool, diffuse a weakness. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> and at that moment, a lot of people said well, there's the ball game. including his opponent. >> including walter mondale. >> what do you think about humor as a tool in this debate tonight? >> you'd better be a very accomplished ac
then clinton and bob dole. >> howard dean said that president obama should not make the same mistake al gore did in 2000 against george w. bush. >> that's not the way america's meant to be. >> and there, there's nixon with the flop sweat. george h.w. bush looking at his watch. appearances count, don't they? >> they really do. and a professional knows that. george h.w. bush in that debate, that third one in richmond in 1992, he was looking at his watch because he was...
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and bill clinton tried the approach i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs. we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. >> you know what i hear and i hear it in the president's speeches, he's still working the interest groups rather than selling a national plan. he keeps talking about more teachers. he doesn't necessarily push education he pushes more teachers and he'll refurbish the school buildings. grant it the aft like it maybe your people like it but it isn't a national plan for economic development and tonight they said what's your difference and that's all he could come up with is something about the teachers. where's the national macroeconomic plan to get us out of these doldrums. >> i think he talks about education in a much different way as well. and not just talk about. he's done it. he talked about the "race to the top" tonight. as a fompbler urban school superintendent that's done more to reform schools across the country than anything else the federal government has ever done but there needs to be more than that as well. he's
and bill clinton tried the approach i'm talking about. we created 23 million new jobs. we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. >> you know what i hear and i hear it in the president's speeches, he's still working the interest groups rather than selling a national plan. he keeps talking about more teachers. he doesn't necessarily push education he pushes more teachers and he'll refurbish the school buildings. grant it the aft like it maybe your people like it but it...
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it's going to sink in better and i think it fits the narrative that barack obama and bill clinton at the convention have been trying to persuade the country to accept, which is inherited a really bad situation. we've made real progress. we have a way to go. well, today it looks like we made real progress. >> well, barack obama did not inherit bill clinton's economy. he inherited george bush's economy. >> that's for sure. >> i think we have forgotten that along the way. robert wolf and bob shrum great to have you both with us tonight. thanks so much. remember, answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter at ed show and on facebook. we want to know what you think. coming up a big win for the economy means mitt romney is losing his favorite talking point. democratic strategist chris covinas will tell us what 7.3% unemployment means for the romney campaign. stay with us. we're coming right back. maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advan
it's going to sink in better and i think it fits the narrative that barack obama and bill clinton at the convention have been trying to persuade the country to accept, which is inherited a really bad situation. we've made real progress. we have a way to go. well, today it looks like we made real progress. >> well, barack obama did not inherit bill clinton's economy. he inherited george bush's economy. >> that's for sure. >> i think we have forgotten that along the way. robert...
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it's why bill clinton's speech was so successful and they call him the explainer in chief. you can explain the math to you and make you see why the numbers don't add up and why mitt romney is cute on these things. the third thing is simple. i said in the show yesterday, mitt romney is really good when he's carrying out prescripted attacks. that is all he did for 90 minutes last night. he spent months preparing for in and had every line internalized and he's good at that. you need to knock him off that game. think about the primaries. when rick perry started to mix it up with him a little bit, that's where the $10,000 bet came from. you income him off the script, and that's where the trouble starts for mitt romney. obama didn't even try. >> i completely agree with that. mitt romney, as you said, he's very good when he can go and say what he wants to say. they didn't take any moment or opportunity to get him off the game. the other failure i would say is overall the president and his team have been excellent at framing this election as a choice rather than a referendum. last
it's why bill clinton's speech was so successful and they call him the explainer in chief. you can explain the math to you and make you see why the numbers don't add up and why mitt romney is cute on these things. the third thing is simple. i said in the show yesterday, mitt romney is really good when he's carrying out prescripted attacks. that is all he did for 90 minutes last night. he spent months preparing for in and had every line internalized and he's good at that. you need to knock him...
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she moderated the debate between bush, clinton, perot. here's her analysis of what's important. >> i'm going to upset some people now, but debates are more about style than substance. the advantage of being a moderator is that people told me what they thought about the debate after the debate. and the things they told me were things like why did george bush look at his watch? where did he have to go? why was he anxious to get out of there? and people tell me now that they want to see how they do. they don't want to hear. i think they've heard a lot about the economy. and they're not interested in the minutia. >> governor, let me get your take on style versus substance. and can you really coach style? i mean, maybe you can say don't look at your watch, but aren't these guys who they are by now? >> i think a lot of it comes down to whether or not the candidates look like they're comfortable in their own skin. i think the president certainly does. and it's been perhaps more difficult for governor romney because he's had to change positions a
she moderated the debate between bush, clinton, perot. here's her analysis of what's important. >> i'm going to upset some people now, but debates are more about style than substance. the advantage of being a moderator is that people told me what they thought about the debate after the debate. and the things they told me were things like why did george bush look at his watch? where did he have to go? why was he anxious to get out of there? and people tell me now that they want to see how...
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>> for the best week, i gave it to bill clinton. with the global clinton initiative, you had both mitt romney and president obama handing him praises. i don't think we've seen a republican and democrat agreeing on much besides that this week. and for the worst week, it's u.n. ambassador to the united nations, susan ryce. he was either not included in some of these briefings, which would be troublesome, or just thrown under the bus when she went out on the sunday shows, explaining that this was not a planned attack, and we now know it was a terrorist attack in libya. >> do you think anything's going to happen with that, with susan rice? do you think she could potentially lose her job or no? >> i don't think she'll lose her job, but i don't think we'll be seeing her much in the upcoming months. >> molly, best and worst? >> i'll give best week to todd akin, the republican senate candidate out in missouri. the deadline passed this week for him to withdraw from the race. he was under heavy, heavy pressure from so many republicans to get
>> for the best week, i gave it to bill clinton. with the global clinton initiative, you had both mitt romney and president obama handing him praises. i don't think we've seen a republican and democrat agreeing on much besides that this week. and for the worst week, it's u.n. ambassador to the united nations, susan ryce. he was either not included in some of these briefings, which would be troublesome, or just thrown under the bus when she went out on the sunday shows, explaining that...
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do you remember that great moment when president clinton was in st. louis and african-american woman stood up and thanked him for helping her get a job because she said my daughter is starting school at a magnet school. and all the best young girls from st. louis are going to be there. the first day of school they're going to be in the lunchroom and they're all going to go around and say what their parents do, my father's a doctor, my father's a lawyer. i didn't want my daughter to have so say, my mother's on welfare. i want her to say, my mother works for ford motor company. >> i remember that encounter. >> it was a moving moment. a moving moment. and paul ryan doe't get that. people don't want a check. they want the dignity of working at a job. no one wants to be on the dole. almost no one in this country. they just don't get it. >> how do you react to this new ryan tape that comes out now as a -- coupled with the presidential candidate's 47% tape? >> well, this is not a gaffe, which is what they would like it to be. it's an ideology, it goes back t
do you remember that great moment when president clinton was in st. louis and african-american woman stood up and thanked him for helping her get a job because she said my daughter is starting school at a magnet school. and all the best young girls from st. louis are going to be there. the first day of school they're going to be in the lunchroom and they're all going to go around and say what their parents do, my father's a doctor, my father's a lawyer. i didn't want my daughter to have so say,...
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hillary clinton. what is her greatest achievement? let's see the picture you took of her. i hear you had to cut through the staff to get to it. that's great photography. >> thank you. i wanted to give it to her for the campaign. >> she's had a rough time traveling the world every three minutes but she'll look like that again when she gets out of the office. but your thoughts about her as a person and public figure? >> she's very gracious, she's very brilliant and we are so lucky to have her as our -- >> my feeling about hillary, i take it back again, i really do, because politics is rough and journalism and politics is tough but every time i'm with her, i just fall for her. there's a charm for that person that doesn't come across on tvs as well as it should. your thoughts, senator? >> well, she is. she's brilliant. but she is also real. when i first got here in the house and then my husband and i married and i was expecting twins, you know, the president and secretary clinton invited us over for dinner. we went upstairs and had chicken in the residence quarters and she had
hillary clinton. what is her greatest achievement? let's see the picture you took of her. i hear you had to cut through the staff to get to it. that's great photography. >> thank you. i wanted to give it to her for the campaign. >> she's had a rough time traveling the world every three minutes but she'll look like that again when she gets out of the office. but your thoughts about her as a person and public figure? >> she's very gracious, she's very brilliant and we are so...
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>> call bill clinton every morning. >> how did bill clinton get to be such a major player in this election? >> bill clinton? >> yeah. >> one, he's a former democratic president. two, a former two-term democratic president, and also a president who led the country at a time of peace and prosperity. when he left office, only the sky was the limit to what this country could do. i bet you in bill clinton were a republican, mitt romney would have him in a bear hug and have him on the campaign trail with him every day. bill clinton is president obama's best surrogate out there. so that's why he's on everyone's lips. that's why he's everyone's best friend now it seems. >> you three were my best friends the last few minutes or so. thanks, guys. >> thank you. >> thank you. >>> what would happen if a u.s. president did this? we're going to talk about israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu and his wiley b. coyote bomb warning about iran and all that. >>> tragedy at the office. why a gunman opened fire killing four people before turning the gun on himself. >>> also a possible motive for colorado sh
>> call bill clinton every morning. >> how did bill clinton get to be such a major player in this election? >> bill clinton? >> yeah. >> one, he's a former democratic president. two, a former two-term democratic president, and also a president who led the country at a time of peace and prosperity. when he left office, only the sky was the limit to what this country could do. i bet you in bill clinton were a republican, mitt romney would have him in a bear hug and...
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bill clinton turned on a dime. we didn't believe in 1994 -- >> i think it was six months of turning. >> yeah. >> but clinton had a huge advantage over obama. clinton had lost the governorship after being the youngest governor in the country. >> he governed in arkansas for ten years. dealt with conservative democrats and a very small republican party. >> the decision to turn came from when he lost in '80 and it was clear to both bill and hillary if they stayed on the hard left they'd be a one-term president as carter had been. the ability to turn goes back to what dee dee just said. being a governor, he and i always could communicate. we had some very tough, brutal fights. but there was some, we both had this compartmentalization that allows us to say okay. that was a really tough press conference. now how do we work this out? >> right. i sense real negotiations require you to listen carefully to the other person. not agree with him but listen carefully. try to figure out is there something we can start building to
bill clinton turned on a dime. we didn't believe in 1994 -- >> i think it was six months of turning. >> yeah. >> but clinton had a huge advantage over obama. clinton had lost the governorship after being the youngest governor in the country. >> he governed in arkansas for ten years. dealt with conservative democrats and a very small republican party. >> the decision to turn came from when he lost in '80 and it was clear to both bill and hillary if they stayed on...
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he's aloof compared to bill clinton. bill clinton has a touch. >> everyone is aloof compared to bill clinton. >> exactly. >> let's talk about mitt romney. strengths, weakness. >> mitt romney's strength is that he is, comes across as competent, as a capable human being. as somebody who projects an air of authority, especially when he talks about the economy. that is the private sector track record. the flip side, the weakness is the 47%. some of the attacks he's taken in terms of that business record. i think mitt romney's biggest problem though, chris, is the sense people can't be sure exactly if he believes what he's saying. he needs to project authentic passion for what he believes his plan would do for the american economy to make the 47% lives better as well as the other 53. >> what do you think, e.j.? >> i thought the definitive line on politics, what you need is sincerity, if you can fake that, you can do anything. it's troublesome on this question of authenticate. what is authenticity? romney has taken a number of
he's aloof compared to bill clinton. bill clinton has a touch. >> everyone is aloof compared to bill clinton. >> exactly. >> let's talk about mitt romney. strengths, weakness. >> mitt romney's strength is that he is, comes across as competent, as a capable human being. as somebody who projects an air of authority, especially when he talks about the economy. that is the private sector track record. the flip side, the weakness is the 47%. some of the attacks he's taken in...
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that's what they've dope with clinton. it's still true. bill clinton today up in new hampshire again, sealed the deal again. he will do it in pennsylvania, he will do it in ohio, and when the time comes, he'll do it in wisconsin. they're going to own the rust belt, the democrats, because of this united party. that's what i think is really important this election. >> and you've got it on politics and you've got it on policy. you've got bill clinton in new hampshire stumping for president obama today. and today with this crisis in syria, in turkey, with this ongoing crisis in libya, you've got hillary clinton out there, the tip of the sphere, the administration, she's going press availabilities with the foreign minister of kazakhstan today. she's absolutely integrated into the obama administration with no question of any division between them. i think that's -- i think to the extent that the clinton popularity in those rust belt states still explains enthusiasm that, i think that's exactly right. >>> all right, we've got lots to come, includ
that's what they've dope with clinton. it's still true. bill clinton today up in new hampshire again, sealed the deal again. he will do it in pennsylvania, he will do it in ohio, and when the time comes, he'll do it in wisconsin. they're going to own the rust belt, the democrats, because of this united party. that's what i think is really important this election. >> and you've got it on politics and you've got it on policy. you've got bill clinton in new hampshire stumping for president...
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same thing with clinton and the younger clinton had like ability. the younger remain personally popular until the resignificance kicked in. right now in a popularity poll president obama is ahead of mitt rom flee by 3 points according to a new fox news survey. after the debates that could change dramatically. romney and obama realize they must seem like the nice guy that's why they go on entertainment programs. they shouldn't be dealing with trivia but they do what they think they have to do. talking points understands that americans want their leaders to be accessible. they want to know that powerful people understand them. that is why the president's campaign has spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to demonize governor romney as the callous rich guy. no one knows how many american voters are basically voting on wins. the group is substantial especially in a time when social media is diverting attention away from issues. >> the first debate is coming up on wednesday october 3rdrd. it starts at 8:55 p.m. from megan kelly and bret baier live
same thing with clinton and the younger clinton had like ability. the younger remain personally popular until the resignificance kicked in. right now in a popularity poll president obama is ahead of mitt rom flee by 3 points according to a new fox news survey. after the debates that could change dramatically. romney and obama realize they must seem like the nice guy that's why they go on entertainment programs. they shouldn't be dealing with trivia but they do what they think they have to do....
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politicians seem to do that. >> i think that's a clinton thing. it looks like he's holding a remote control. open gestures are almost always more effective than any closed gestures. >> it's important for a candidate's body language to match what they are saying, right? a classic example going back to 2007, john mccain talking about osama bin laden. i want to play that. >> on the subject of osama bin laden, he is responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent americans, he is now orchestrating other attacks on the united states of america, we will do whatever is necessary, we will track him down, we will capture, bring him to justice and i'll follow him to the gates of hell. >> okay. >> oh, gosh. >> that was like a smile. >> yes. so that's -- you know, sort of nonverbal asin cronie. between either the content of what the person is saying and the nonverbals or the asynchroni. when you are saying you are following someone to the gates of hell, you shouldn't be smiling. viewers don't know why, but it makes them feel bad. >> there are reports that
politicians seem to do that. >> i think that's a clinton thing. it looks like he's holding a remote control. open gestures are almost always more effective than any closed gestures. >> it's important for a candidate's body language to match what they are saying, right? a classic example going back to 2007, john mccain talking about osama bin laden. i want to play that. >> on the subject of osama bin laden, he is responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent americans, he...
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bill clinton does it in a warm and empathetic way. and president obama did a little bit of that but in this very disengaged law/professor-type of approach. some people think it is harder for the president to be nasty, be tough because then he comes across as an angry black man who is going to scare people. i don't know, but for whatever reason it -- he just did not push back. he did not engage. >> i think also the lack of audience noise was an issue and the way the debate was staged. it added to this lack of energy. remember, this is a year when most people watching debates on television or getting their news are used to the kind of roar of the crowd. they used to tweet, they are used to crowd engagement. to have two people quiet ligating on the stage in a professorial way is quite alien for most american people today. >> there's that same perception that it is reality, even liberal pundits were critical of the president. a lot of the post and headlines today will say mitt romney won this debate. they are both going out on the road to
bill clinton does it in a warm and empathetic way. and president obama did a little bit of that but in this very disengaged law/professor-type of approach. some people think it is harder for the president to be nasty, be tough because then he comes across as an angry black man who is going to scare people. i don't know, but for whatever reason it -- he just did not push back. he did not engage. >> i think also the lack of audience noise was an issue and the way the debate was staged. it...
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last night in new york the israeli leader did meet with secretary of state clinton one-on-one for more than an hour in what was described as an indepth discussion on iran and shared goal of preventing that country from acquiring a nuclear weapon. just hours earlier, netanyahu used visual imagery to lay out in clear terms his own red line for dealing with iran. nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell has more from the u.n. general assembly. >> reporter: trying to immobilize the world against what he sees as a threat to israel's existence, benjamin netanyahu armed himself with a simple cartoon to illustrate how close he says iran is to developing a nuclear weapon. >> this is a bomb. this is a fuse. >> reporter: a day after iran's president ahmadinejad called israel uncivilized zionists. iran is already 70% to getting enough nuclear fuel for a bomb and has to be stopped within months. >> if these are the facts -- and they are -- where should a red line be drawn? a red line should be drawn right here. >> reporter: president obama told the u.n. this week he thinks there
last night in new york the israeli leader did meet with secretary of state clinton one-on-one for more than an hour in what was described as an indepth discussion on iran and shared goal of preventing that country from acquiring a nuclear weapon. just hours earlier, netanyahu used visual imagery to lay out in clear terms his own red line for dealing with iran. nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell has more from the u.n. general assembly. >> reporter: trying to...
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up in that debate with hillary clinton. >> right. >> again, that is who he is. i think we are totally for getting that. >> not only that, but i think we're also for getting that both of these men, to your point, they were who they always have been, even in governing. barack obama has infuriated his own base because of this perception that he doesn't fight hard enough. >> recurrent theme. >> it's a recurrent theme. with mitt romney the recurrent theme among republicans, the reason he doesn't have a lot of frentsds in his party is the idea that he's a vicious debater. newt gingrich called him a liar in which he demolished supposedly the best debater in the republican party and he is known to be a flip-flopper. what did he do in that debate, he flip-flopped. everybody played the type. >> dedrick's point is smart about mitt romney in some ways was the beneficiary of lowered expectations and the beneficiary of the success of the obama campaign as painting him as a character of a ba foonish budocrat. by the time john kerry took the debate stage the bush campaign had d
up in that debate with hillary clinton. >> right. >> again, that is who he is. i think we are totally for getting that. >> not only that, but i think we're also for getting that both of these men, to your point, they were who they always have been, even in governing. barack obama has infuriated his own base because of this perception that he doesn't fight hard enough. >> recurrent theme. >> it's a recurrent theme. with mitt romney the recurrent theme among...
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bill clinton tried the approach that i'm talking about. we creatd 23 million new jobs, we went from deficit to surplus, and businesses did very well. so in some ways, we've got some data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunity for americans, and i believe that the economy works best when middle class families are getting tax breaks, so that they've got some money in their pockets. and those of us who have done extraordinarily well because of this magnificent country that we live in, that we can afford to do a little bit more to make sure we're not blowing up the deficit. >> jim, the president began this segment, so i think i get the last word. >> well, you're going to get the first word in the next segment. >> but he gets the first word of that segment, i get the last word of this segment. >> he can have it. >> that's not how it works. >> let me repeat what i said. i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. that's point one.
bill clinton tried the approach that i'm talking about. we creatd 23 million new jobs, we went from deficit to surplus, and businesses did very well. so in some ways, we've got some data on which approach is more likely to create jobs and opportunity for americans, and i believe that the economy works best when middle class families are getting tax breaks, so that they've got some money in their pockets. and those of us who have done extraordinarily well because of this magnificent country that...
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in fact, politico has called it the clinton crutch. how much will president obama be relaying on the former president to sell his economic plan, specifically? >> sure. well, look, president obama is a fantastic advocate for president obama. he's got a unique perspective that he brings to this campaign. having been through some of the challenges with the economy that the president faces today during the 1990s, and having implemented very similar proposals in terms of investing in education and investing in infrastructure, responsibly bringing down the debt, so his is a voice that we think is a very powerful voice in helping to tell the president's story. we think he's going to be a great advocate for us. we're excited he's giving us that time and we're excited to have him out advocating for the president on the trail. >> brent, hypothetically, let's say the president is re-elected. what's his first order of business next year, is it immigration reform? is it climate change? what's going to be, jobs notwithstanding, because i know that's
in fact, politico has called it the clinton crutch. how much will president obama be relaying on the former president to sell his economic plan, specifically? >> sure. well, look, president obama is a fantastic advocate for president obama. he's got a unique perspective that he brings to this campaign. having been through some of the challenges with the economy that the president faces today during the 1990s, and having implemented very similar proposals in terms of investing in education...
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he, as we've seen him throughout the democratic nomination fight, in his debates with hillary clinton, he lost a lot of those debates to her. a couple notable exceptions. he lost at lo of them. he performed very well against john mccain but he has a tendency to get impatient, to get a little dismissive, to get a little haughty sometimes and not to be -- to put on his best face. both candidates are like -- trying to do all these things simultaneously, they want to be on offense, on defense, rehearsed lines running through their head, video they've seen, practice sessions and in that moment they're out there under these bright lights with all this pressure and unexpected things happen and that's what makes it exciting. we can pregame it forever but unsomething will happen tomorrow night that nobody talked about and that's what we'll be talking about 48 hours from now. >> we're so excited. >> we can't wait. >> the romney campaign has been really going after what they see as a vulnerability, benghazi, and it's clear that not only did things go wrong tragically wrong, but that there was a
he, as we've seen him throughout the democratic nomination fight, in his debates with hillary clinton, he lost a lot of those debates to her. a couple notable exceptions. he lost at lo of them. he performed very well against john mccain but he has a tendency to get impatient, to get a little dismissive, to get a little haughty sometimes and not to be -- to put on his best face. both candidates are like -- trying to do all these things simultaneously, they want to be on offense, on defense,...
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president clinton's former staff secretary will join me like. i'll talk to steve kornacki who said romney is not the one to blame for his campaign struggles. who is? the rnc cuts tieing with ale consulting firm over allegations of major voter fraud in florida. bob... oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup plan, in case i get hit by a meteor. wow, your hair looks great. didn't realize they did photoshop here. hey, good call on those mugs. can't let 'em see what you're drinking. you know, i'm glad we're both running a nice, clean race. no need to get nasty. here's your "honk if you had an affair with taylor" yard sign. looks good. [ male announcer ] fedex office. now save 50% on banners. you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar tra
president clinton's former staff secretary will join me like. i'll talk to steve kornacki who said romney is not the one to blame for his campaign struggles. who is? the rnc cuts tieing with ale consulting firm over allegations of major voter fraud in florida. bob... oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup plan, in case i get hit by a meteor. wow, your hair looks great. didn't realize they did photoshop...
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against hillary clinton he wasn't a great debater. i have to look at tapes of obama as a debater in congressional races and state senate, he wasn't great. he's a speech maker. as a debater, he's never been good at all. laz night he outdid himself. he had so many allies to go down. whether about women. whether about 47%. whether it was about the fuz fuzziness of romney's policy suggestions on taxes. romney's suggestion the auto business bankrupt. he did not show up. he has to next time. the that you're going to see by tuesday is going to be significant in a lot of states. >> and also the swing in attitude. you look at the wall street journal editorial page. the best republican performance since 1980. bill crystal was saying the same thing last night. i was saying the same thing. i said, this is the best i've seen a republican do since 1980. >> in a generation. i've been very critical. bill crystal has been critical. conservatives have been critical. why can't mitt romney connect the dots? last night he did. how important is that -- for
against hillary clinton he wasn't a great debater. i have to look at tapes of obama as a debater in congressional races and state senate, he wasn't great. he's a speech maker. as a debater, he's never been good at all. laz night he outdid himself. he had so many allies to go down. whether about women. whether about 47%. whether it was about the fuz fuzziness of romney's policy suggestions on taxes. romney's suggestion the auto business bankrupt. he did not show up. he has to next time. the that...
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bill clinton, lord knows, that's what it was all about with that guy. and this guy, i mean, can't do it at all. by the way, that's also the magic of the tea party movement. >> can't you imagine having some caviar with mitt romney? bellinis? >> with special spoons you have to eat it with. it can't be silver. it's got to be whatever it is. i'm sure mitt romney can tell you all about it. he just can't switch it on. not only that, this is the republican party and conservatism generally has been coasting on this notion, this sort of populist aura that hoverses around them and he's the opposite, you know. he's -- i was reading this great story in "rolling stone" the other day by matt taibbi about how mitt romney is like all of the terrible movie villains of the last 30 years. you know, he's the rich fraternity boy that's such a snob to the guys in animal house, right? you go down the list of movie villains and this is the kind of guy. perfectly, well coifed executives who fire everybody. >> thomas, i'm so grateful to you, but i'm afraid we've run out of time.
bill clinton, lord knows, that's what it was all about with that guy. and this guy, i mean, can't do it at all. by the way, that's also the magic of the tea party movement. >> can't you imagine having some caviar with mitt romney? bellinis? >> with special spoons you have to eat it with. it can't be silver. it's got to be whatever it is. i'm sure mitt romney can tell you all about it. he just can't switch it on. not only that, this is the republican party and conservatism generally...
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obama is more popular within the party and the base right now at this point in the election than bill clinton was, than jimmy carter was with his party and bush sr. was with his party. energy is hard to measure. the measurements we have show a reaganesque party unity. >> matt has this great piece in the rolling stone where he says the presidential race never, ever should have been this close. the idea that we become like sports announcers. we want the tight game going into the fourth quarter. we want a hail mary pass at the end because it is more exciting. he points out that, in fact, this race is one given both who mitt romney is as a candidate as well as the extremely high support that president obama has within his base should never have been this close at all which goes to your point about sometimes the massive amount of money that's gone into the race to give us a different message about mitt romney. >> i want to add one disagreement to the disagreement. as much as popularity and the figures are up. the difference between 2008 and 2012 is the tea party, which happened in 2010. we know th
obama is more popular within the party and the base right now at this point in the election than bill clinton was, than jimmy carter was with his party and bush sr. was with his party. energy is hard to measure. the measurements we have show a reaganesque party unity. >> matt has this great piece in the rolling stone where he says the presidential race never, ever should have been this close. the idea that we become like sports announcers. we want the tight game going into the fourth...
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parker can feel your pain just like bill clinton. i think one of the tasks for mitt romney is to prove he can feel your pain, not just inflict it. up next, what difference does it make when your president is also your friend? at least on facebook. thanks, parker. i appreciate it. >> nice job. ♪ ♪ ♪ we're lucky, it's not every day you find a companion as loyal as a subaru. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. ♪ spread a little love my way ♪ ♪ spread a little something to remember ♪ [ female announcer ] fresh milk and real cream makes philadelphia and the moment a little richer. so it can feel like you're using nothing at all. but neosporin® eczema essentials™ is different. its multi-action formula restores visibly healthier skin in 3 days. neosporin® eczema essentials™. is efficiently absorbed in small continuous amounts. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow release. oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of
parker can feel your pain just like bill clinton. i think one of the tasks for mitt romney is to prove he can feel your pain, not just inflict it. up next, what difference does it make when your president is also your friend? at least on facebook. thanks, parker. i appreciate it. >> nice job. ♪ ♪ ♪ we're lucky, it's not every day you find a companion as loyal as a subaru. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. ♪ spread a little love my way ♪ ♪ spread a little something to...
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bring bill clinton as his debate coach." that's one person's opinion of the matter. nevertheless, no chance in that happening, but we know from what david axelrod has said and others, there will likely be a strategy change for the president in the next debate. >> no one knows why the president didn't do as well. i think that you're going to see a more focused president obama. actually, a more focused obama campaign team on preparation. this is a conversation we had about mitt romney and a lot of things he said shouldn't have been too surprising given all the republican debates we had seen over the past year or so. and president obama was caught flat-footed, his campaign was flat-footed. we'll see if the adjustments they end up making as david axelrod promised. >> what's the early word on the vice presidential debates? you have democrats off the record worried knowing that biden could give a make moment or a break moment. >> it's most watched tv. it's important to note that paul ryan has never been on this stage before. joe biden, given he's run for president twice, i
bring bill clinton as his debate coach." that's one person's opinion of the matter. nevertheless, no chance in that happening, but we know from what david axelrod has said and others, there will likely be a strategy change for the president in the next debate. >> no one knows why the president didn't do as well. i think that you're going to see a more focused president obama. actually, a more focused obama campaign team on preparation. this is a conversation we had about mitt romney...
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>> well, in terms of obama, the great question the democratic presidents have been asking since clinton is, can you get a non-judge on the court? kagen was not a judge, but her background was judge-like. we were discussing earlier, the court that decided the board of education, one of the justices, not one had been a full time judge before. when alida replaced o'connor, they were all federal court judges. that is a terrible lack of diversity. she knew what it was like to raise money. >> she was a former state legislature. a lot of what comes in front of the court are sta chte statutes. >> for the middle. >> citizens united is a case that talks about giving money to campaigns as if it's a first amendment speech driven process. a politician may say, can i tell you what goes on, why people give money to campaigns? >> yeah. >> i would think, if this president is reelected, because there are so few court of appeals judges who are the right age, he will have to look outside the judiciary, which i agree, is a great thing. it's not only understanding how government works, it's understanding peo
>> well, in terms of obama, the great question the democratic presidents have been asking since clinton is, can you get a non-judge on the court? kagen was not a judge, but her background was judge-like. we were discussing earlier, the court that decided the board of education, one of the justices, not one had been a full time judge before. when alida replaced o'connor, they were all federal court judges. that is a terrible lack of diversity. she knew what it was like to raise money....
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we talked to bill clinton, i think, tuesday of last week, newt gingrich of wednesday last week. to hear them talk about each other, couldn't stand about each other. newt gingrich said they could be in negotiations and fight for two hours and bill clinton would always listen, listen for one moment where they could agree on something and then it built out on that. and bill clinton was praising the guy who impeached him and newt gingrich was praising his mortal political enemy because even though they couldn't stand each other at the time, they worked together for america's good. >> you were there in washington and it seemed to me at that time it was to show you got something done. it seems to me now the point of political survival is making sure your opponent gets nothing done, even if it mean use all get nothing done. >> exactly. >> is that -- >> and the depressing thing is -- let's say mitt romney is elected. are dim carats going to work for him? what if barack obama's re-elected? is he going to say, okay, now i'm going to go to simpson-bowles? let's talk about medicare. it's th
we talked to bill clinton, i think, tuesday of last week, newt gingrich of wednesday last week. to hear them talk about each other, couldn't stand about each other. newt gingrich said they could be in negotiations and fight for two hours and bill clinton would always listen, listen for one moment where they could agree on something and then it built out on that. and bill clinton was praising the guy who impeached him and newt gingrich was praising his mortal political enemy because even though...
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anyone who has a subgroup or culture -- >> bill clinton was the king, skoed switch in a talk, right? >> right. >> why is that such a negative? i do agree to a certain extent the president had to be -- he is confined and constrained to a certain extent that he the k. not get angry, he cannot have the flash of irritation because it will be replayed endlessly. given, that's a given. but still, you know, he could have been more present. but why is the whole notion of code switching so wrong? >> well, so this is -- this is -- art and i were speculating on this in the green room, which is that, one, i think that probably this whole speculation, i have no facts to go on. >> it's new. here we go. >> i'm very comfortable with that. >> so -- but the point is, i guess that what the campaign was saying is, you're ahead, your job is to look presidential. so, don't go on the attack. you're winning. be presidential. and that part of what that is can also play as don't be the angry black man but i suspect they were thinking less about that and thinking more about, you know, use your advantage and be
anyone who has a subgroup or culture -- >> bill clinton was the king, skoed switch in a talk, right? >> right. >> why is that such a negative? i do agree to a certain extent the president had to be -- he is confined and constrained to a certain extent that he the k. not get angry, he cannot have the flash of irritation because it will be replayed endlessly. given, that's a given. but still, you know, he could have been more present. but why is the whole notion of code...
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i think bill clinton was able to say things that barack obama couldn't say. he inherited a mess and making it better. >> when we come back it kraig shirley joins us and michael duffy is here. but first here is a check on the forecast. >>> the weather story this morning has been the fog. it has been very dense around philadelphia and new york city. earlier it wasn't that good over reagan international airport. the delay so far has been limited to philadelphia northwards into the new york city airport. here is our fog advisory. all of the new york saelt and philadelphia. airport delays in newark. la guardia two hours away. those airports have those issues. it will begin to ripple across the country. after the fog lifts it will be a warm day. still a few showers in new england and maybe a stray thunderstorm. the october temperature forecast. we have big changes sweeping through the eastern half of the country. much cooler air starting today in the northwest. the exception is going to be all of the west coast. we are going to stay nice and warm. the bottom line t
i think bill clinton was able to say things that barack obama couldn't say. he inherited a mess and making it better. >> when we come back it kraig shirley joins us and michael duffy is here. but first here is a check on the forecast. >>> the weather story this morning has been the fog. it has been very dense around philadelphia and new york city. earlier it wasn't that good over reagan international airport. the delay so far has been limited to philadelphia northwards into the...
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and then proceed to walk through as clinton would have done the mathematics to prove it. i don't think romney would have been smart enough to figure out how to get out of that hit, but obama ignored that opportunity and i think that's a mistake. joan, you're correct. he will everywhere he goes, he will save the day and correct what he didn't do last night, but 58 million people will not be able to be contacted in time for him to make that correction. >> well, joan, last night romney made another surprising state on his health care plan this time. let's take a look at the lates variation on a theme which is i'm not as bad as i am. let's watch it. >> let's get the governor explain what you would do it obama care is repealed. how would you replace it? >> actually, it's a lengthy description but number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. number two, young people are able to stay on their family plan. >> well, there's a lie. keep it simple. i reserve my right to use it once in a wile. his own guy came out and said it's not in there. talking points memo repo
and then proceed to walk through as clinton would have done the mathematics to prove it. i don't think romney would have been smart enough to figure out how to get out of that hit, but obama ignored that opportunity and i think that's a mistake. joan, you're correct. he will everywhere he goes, he will save the day and correct what he didn't do last night, but 58 million people will not be able to be contacted in time for him to make that correction. >> well, joan, last night romney made...
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this is the defensive marriage act signed by president clinton. it says for federal recognition, the marriages are only between men and women. the question is it fair, constitutional or discriminatory against gay couples. if it strikes it down, i doesn't say that states have to recognize gay marriages but where gay marriages have taken place, they have to uphold that. >> when will be we hear the arguments on it? >> october 10th. it's challenged by this white student, gable fisher from texas. the university has an interesting program, chuck. it grants admission automatic will toy the university of texas in austen for the top 10% of every high school class. the whole goal is racial diversity. that gets them some diversity. the question is whether they can take the extra tell to round out the race of the other applicants. >> it means it happens before the election, not the decision, and the argument and it means it will at least get into the presidential debate. pete williams. it's october 1st. where else is he going to be. >>> up next, florida, flor
this is the defensive marriage act signed by president clinton. it says for federal recognition, the marriages are only between men and women. the question is it fair, constitutional or discriminatory against gay couples. if it strikes it down, i doesn't say that states have to recognize gay marriages but where gay marriages have taken place, they have to uphold that. >> when will be we hear the arguments on it? >> october 10th. it's challenged by this white student, gable fisher...
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some of the evidence suggests from the clinton years, it doesn't produce that. >> yeah, i agree, john. i think he does have to make that case, though. he has to make some sort of affirmative case. i really don't think it's enough for romney to point at obama and say he's doing a bad job. that hasn't gotten him over the hump. and i do think he has to say, look, here's what i'm going to do and here's how it's going to make things better. and if -- if he's going to talk about tax cuts, he's got to explain how that's going to make the life of, well, frankly, the 47% any better. and that's a challenge. >> all right. eugene robinson, thank you. john harwood, thung. chuck todd, we'll see you on the daily rundown. >>> coming up, a showdown in last night's massachusetts race. senator scott brown and elizabeth warren face off in their second televised debate. kelly o'donnell joins us with a live report. but first, some say if we fix the housing market, we'll fix the economy. so how close are we to solving the foreclosure crisis? cnbc's david faber and the founder of the online lending company l
some of the evidence suggests from the clinton years, it doesn't produce that. >> yeah, i agree, john. i think he does have to make that case, though. he has to make some sort of affirmative case. i really don't think it's enough for romney to point at obama and say he's doing a bad job. that hasn't gotten him over the hump. and i do think he has to say, look, here's what i'm going to do and here's how it's going to make things better. and if -- if he's going to talk about tax cuts, he's...
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barack obama, it happened with hillary clinton time and time again where hillary clinton, chris dodd, joe biden, out debated barack obama in every single debate back in 2008. every single debate. chris dodd, joe biden, hillary clinton just ran circles around him and people get -- at some point you just have to say because he doesn't have his -- i mean, as great of a grasp on the issues as the people he's debating. >> that's sobering but true. i believe it's the professor versus -- >> how can you be president of the united states, mark halperin and not have these basic answers? >> well, it's more the format i think than not having the answers. he spent a lot of the evening going after mitt romney for things that he thinks he can win the election on like taxes and medicare. it wasn't like he never responded to him. >> isn't the format in washington that you get in a room with someone and you go at it and try and figure it out? >> and that's what we're asking. has he been too isolated? listen, we talked to him -- the guy is brilliant. he really is. but has he become so isolated there's n
barack obama, it happened with hillary clinton time and time again where hillary clinton, chris dodd, joe biden, out debated barack obama in every single debate back in 2008. every single debate. chris dodd, joe biden, hillary clinton just ran circles around him and people get -- at some point you just have to say because he doesn't have his -- i mean, as great of a grasp on the issues as the people he's debating. >> that's sobering but true. i believe it's the professor versus --...
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ask bill clinton. sometimes you just need a do-able plan that is enough to get the markets believing and the rating agencies to hold off downgrading and have americans feeling more confident. you did not have to wave a wand and tell us how you will make all the red ink disappear overnight. you just have to state a plan on starting the process. tomorrow night be the former reagan economic adviser who remembers how bill clinton and how ronald reagan did that. you do not have to change things immediately, you just have to give a plan that makes people think and hope and pray you have started the process, right? >>guest: that is correct. you need to get growth. you have to get growth. you cannot balance the budget on the backs of the unemployed and the poor. that is where a flat tax comes in. it allows attraction of the capital abroad. sam nunn was correct, you have to cut government spending. that has to happen, especially entitlements where you pay people not to work. there are other ways of bringing the
ask bill clinton. sometimes you just need a do-able plan that is enough to get the markets believing and the rating agencies to hold off downgrading and have americans feeling more confident. you did not have to wave a wand and tell us how you will make all the red ink disappear overnight. you just have to state a plan on starting the process. tomorrow night be the former reagan economic adviser who remembers how bill clinton and how ronald reagan did that. you do not have to change things...
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he is running on the clinton economy, more than he is on his own -- >> greta: in other words, they were buried -- >> well, whatever -- whatever -- whatever word you want to use, there are not a lot of things to point to in the economic numbers that make you feel good about t. he clarified and said it's because of the romney and ryan policies that they were buried over the larger period than four yierz, but it's a bad comment. it's the four years that you are going to have president obama trying to defend -- tomorrow night. >> the problem is, joe biden talked about the one thing he was not supposed to talk about on the campaign. this is what the obama administration has been militant about -- they want to talk about the bad things of the bush administration and the things they may do in the future that will make them better. they don't want to talk about the last four years, in particular the fact that there arguably has know been a worse times for the middle class than in the past four years. >> this is the message they were trying to send. i saw a word analysis of the republican and th
he is running on the clinton economy, more than he is on his own -- >> greta: in other words, they were buried -- >> well, whatever -- whatever -- whatever word you want to use, there are not a lot of things to point to in the economic numbers that make you feel good about t. he clarified and said it's because of the romney and ryan policies that they were buried over the larger period than four yierz, but it's a bad comment. it's the four years that you are going to have president...